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19 Oct 2008 01:34 AM  

I'm hunting in upstate NY and there is a big buck that must only come out at night. He has 4 good size trees rubbed up and 3 big ground scrapes. I have  been in the woods early am and late at night but no buck. How do I get him to change his ways and is it to early to start rattling or grunting.Thanks for the help! 

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19 Oct 2008 04:46 AM  
Sounds like you have the location right. are you using scent eliminationg products and watching the wind? keep hunting him. I dont do much grunting or rattling so i wouldnt know
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19 Oct 2008 03:21 PM  
Try setting up a trail camera to see what time he is visting the scrapes and rubs.Good luck
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19 Oct 2008 06:26 PM  
you could hang a active scrape over his ground scrapes, they only drip in the day, he might think theres another buck in his territory and give you that shot, tubbys right to.
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20 Oct 2008 12:46 AM  

I did not use any cover scent,camo hung out side for two days.  so far the wind has been in my favor. Don't want to do anything that might spook him, should the drip be put out the night before or the day of, never used one.I have only used grunt calls rattling and some doe scent thats all i ever used but if a drip works I'll try it. Thanks a lot can't wait to get him so I can send pics.

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20 Oct 2008 02:32 AM  
I put mine out during the day when I hung my stand, had fresh tracks in it every day
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21 Oct 2008 07:23 PM  
iThe next time you go I would make a scent drag all the way to your stand and put some fresh buck scent in the scrap you are hunting or put a drip up. and try using a young buck grunt, also you could try to rattle, Not a full blown fight but more like some sparing. Thats what I would do.
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22 Oct 2008 04:27 AM  

Thanks bowfreak and Thanks to every body who chipped in with suggestions. I will be out all day Thu and Friday hunting hard I'll keep you posted if anything good happens. 

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23 Oct 2008 03:05 AM  

i have found that most bucks do and check the  scrapes at night.i have had cams on them and it shows the proof.night action.

try to find the best trail and follow it back aways and set up there.try rattling and calling.get back from the scrapes and catch him on the way to them.good luck

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28 Oct 2008 02:27 PM  
Good luck on getting the buck to change his ways... You need to focus on adjusting your pattern(s) to catch him working/checking his scrapes... Just prior to peak rut, he is probably checking his line twice a 24 hour period, or at least that is what I have noticed, which means if he is running his line at 10:00 p.m., he is probably running it again somewhere around 10:00 a.m. A lot of variables go into "timing" (weather, moon phase, pressure), but you cannot count on first thing in the morning and last thing in the evening every single day of the season... Some of the biggest bucks I have harvested have been in the middle of the day...

Keep in mind, there is a difference in "checking" and "working" a scrape line... A dominant buck will often check his line from the downwind side and not actually walk the line itself, unless he is working the scrapes and chances are if you catch a buck walking the line and not working it, he is not the dominant buck that you are looking for...

Now, something that has worked well for me in the past has been to utilize a double drag... The front one activated with hot doe urine (take your pick on the brand) and the trail one activated with dominant buck urine... Sometimes making him think another buck is working his territory behind a hot doe will bring him storming in so that you can get a shot... Also, once you get to your stand, hang the drag and a couple more scent containers so the wind can carry... If he gets close, he will check it out...

Another option is to back off of the scrape line, where you can still get a shot (it takes a couple of different stand locations depending on wind) and put him between you and the scrape line when he is checking it...

Also, once the does go seriously hot, he is going to be trailing them, so if you know where the does are or are going to be, you might want to wait for him there...
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28 Oct 2008 03:05 PM  
Posted By majthor on 10/28/2008 8:27 AM...

Now, something that has worked well for me in the past has been to utilize a double drag... The front one activated with hot doe urine (take your pick on the brand) and the trail one activated with dominant buck urine... Sometimes making him think another buck is working his territory behind a hot doe will bring him storming in so that you can get a shot..

Thats  a very good Idea, I never thought about doing a double drag, It makes good sence. I will have to try that.

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23 Nov 2008 04:29 PM  
 I Finally found the big wide 8 thats been taring up the woods. But to make a long story short. Shot at him hit a branch that i didn't see in the scope and just knocked off some fur. any body think he will come back to that spot. He was walking right up his scrape line at about 7:15 am.    
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