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By Mike Handley

Pat BatesPheromones and estrous doe scents might be akin to Cupid's arrow, but whatever Pat Bates pours on bushes is more like Thor's hammer.

One whiff of the concoction will turn bucks into white-eyed defoliators, or, if they're big and stupid enough to do battle with flora in front of Pat, into wall art.

The former firefighter from Alberta decided a long time ago that if he wanted to be as successful in the deer woods as his brother is, and if he wanted to put a tag on a record book buck, he'd better not rely on luck. That's why, since his retirement in 2007, he spends at least eight of every 10 days afield each season. It's why he began playing around with the potion he calls his "buckstuff."

It's also how he one-upped Mike Bates in 2010.

He went to his brother's place on Nov. 25, their father's 89th birthday. While the patriarch hunted with Mike that morning, Pat struck out on his own, hoping to connect with a huge buck that had bewitched and eluded his sibling for a couple of years.

"The directions Mike gave me were very specific," Pat said. "And while I didn't see the big fella, I saw a lot of sign. I also put some buckstuff on a tree with a huge scrape nearby, and then I went back to Mike's for lunch."

Upon his return, he saw his father's birthday present.

"Dad has always been lucky on his birthday, and that day was no exception. Shortly after daylight, he slammed a long-tined 4x4," Pat said. "After Mike and Dad described their morning, we discussed viable options for the afternoon. Because they had already burned their tags, Mike decided to accompany me.

"With a favorable wind blowing, we slipped into our hide about 3:00. It was farther away than I liked, but it allowed for an unobstructed view of both the scrape and the tree where the buckstuff was distributed," he continued. "Four o'clock came with no action, and it was starting to get a bit colder. And then, all of a sudden, this buck was just there ... It didn't walk up, didn't run up; it was just there, where seconds before there was nothing.

"One quick look through the binoculars, and I was reaching for my rifle. The range was at least 250 yards, but with a convenient tree branch for a rest, I was confident I could make the shot.

"The deer was raking the tree with authority as I slipped the 150-grain bullet behind its shoulder," he continued.

Pat's buck scores 170 2/8 inches as a Perfect in the BTR (190 6/8, if inside spread is added). The full story of his hunt, as well as a little more insight into the man who squeezed the trigger, will appear this fall in Rack magazine.

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W Huffman
# W Huffman
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:00 AM
So what is this "buck stuff" and how can i make it??
Paul Smith
# Paul Smith
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:10 AM
So, as previously asked, what is it and how can we either make it or aquire it?
Mike Handley
# Mike Handley
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:36 AM
Good question. Maybe if we keep asking, Pat will share his recipe.
# David
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:47 AM
What is the "Buck stuff" made of.
Steven Butler
# Steven Butler
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:48 AM
I am ready to mix me up some of that Buckstuff.... Pat, please share it wiht this hunter in Texas. Or sale me some of that Buckstuff....
# Bobby
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:51 AM
What's the good stuff ?????
# Edward
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:21 PM
Same as all the above, PLEASE!!!!!
# Clay
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:35 PM
Same as above. Please share!!
# Kenneth
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:56 PM
Hey Pat,
Please share your recipe for "buckstuff". Inquiring minds would like to know.
# Kenny
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:07 PM
Please share. Sounds like a winner.
mike sutton
# mike sutton
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:31 PM
What is Buckstuff hunters want to know
# steve
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:19 PM
Wth Patrick it ain't like were going to be hunting in your honey hole what the potion???
Tommy Bazor
# Tommy Bazor
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 4:08 PM
Yeah, I need all the help I can get hunting management land in lower Alabama. At least get a patent on it so we all can try it.
# Jan
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 5:03 PM
What is it we all need help
Lee Leland
# Lee Leland
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 6:34 PM
Kicking your brother's butt is worth it all!
# waylon
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:27 PM
this story was anticlimatic.....we also anticipated some incredient to wonderful wonderbuck buckstuff that had us hanging on for the punchline(aka what the buckstuff was made of)....that was cruel
Keith Garner
# Keith Garner
Wednesday, August 24, 2011 7:35 AM
Great story; greater buck@
Bob Arndt
# Bob Arndt
Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:16 AM
Same as the rest if you would like to share and not buy the stuff from the shelf. I like original. Thanks

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