Wisconsin hunter 4 life - 
Button Buck
 | | 09/20/2007 1:19 PM |
| Why do we need Earn a buck anyways all we are doing is killing doe for no good reason, for something that we dont even know is in the deer herd or around us. But anyways I live in Wisconsin and I bow hunt and deer hunt and just wanted to know if you guys think the same way I do. | | | |
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ks_hunter -
Button Buck
| | 09/28/2007 5:43 PM |
| keepin the doe - buck ratio close does make hunting easer if you have 1 buck to 5 does they dont have to compete as much to breed which in turn makes it easer for the less dominate bucks to breed and that way you have smaller deer racks to hunt as time goes on. A closer 1 to 1 raio the better because deer respond to calls / ratling because they know they need to compete to get a chance to breed and the better bucks genes go on not the weeker genes
hope that explanes it
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wisconsincamofem -
Button Buck
| | 09/30/2007 5:56 PM |
| I am in Wisconsin as well.. and our earn a buck in the CWD areas has nothing to do with keeping the doe and buck ratios close....
It is to keep the herd down in general. They are asking for a major cut-down. One hunter can kill four deer a day for a veryyyy looong season. Early 4 day October, and November18-December9 gun deer.... Not too mention the archery september which goes to the end of the year. That's alot of dead deer. A hunter could get greedy and want to take out alot of bucks if they wanted to. As long as they took a doe first. This creates a problem in my eyes..... but in the CWD effort.... may be nessasary to keep to keep the disease from spreading. I am all for taking a doe out , don't get me wrong.
Just not 20 of them in a season. Legally, I could take out a heck of alot more though.... I am going to stick with one doe and one buck this year hopefully. Get my doe in and then relax and wait for the big boy and let the rest get bigger. Might have to take an additional doe out this year if possible. Then incase of a earn- a- buck next year.. Won't have to sweat it....
Wisconsin_Hunter,, in all I don't like this earn a buck neither.... Seems like whenever it happens the dominant buck of the area always walks out first light first morning... and you are stuck crying about it later!!!!! | |
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ks_hunter -
Button Buck
| | 10/01/2007 3:22 PM |
| you made a good point at the end about the chances of a good buck walking out first i hadnt thought of it like that sucks to be you guys then agian we can only shoot one buck per year in kansas and like 4 anterless tags how many does your state allow you to buy
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wisconsincamofem -
Button Buck
| | 10/01/2007 7:43 PM |
| | 24.00 dollars is all it costs to shoot up to four does a day for the entire hunting season. No extra costs,.. free tags if you needed them.. The normal hunting zones are different. There are so many different zones in Wisconsin with different regulations. | |
Land of the Packers, Miller, Great Cheese, and Deer Camps | |
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hoody06 -
Button Buck
NJ
| | 10/09/2007 8:51 AM |
| they took earn a buck to a whole new level in jersey
now for permit seasons you need to buy a seperate tag to take a buck
your initial permit is only good for does
and to stop the go shoot a buck then go buy your tag
the tag needs to purchased by the day before season starts | |
thwack is the only sound i want to hear from sept to feb!!! | |
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lgregory -
Button Buck
| | 10/14/2007 7:09 PM |
| I really hate earn-a-buck too. I know it's good for the herd and all but it never fails that I see nothing but bucks in those seasons.
What bothers me the most is the out of state hunting fees in the CWD area. I'm from wisconsin originally and have hunted my uncles farm forever but I have to pay the state $160 dollars to go there and control their herd. I was going to buy 40 acres from him but I found out that even owning the land I would have to pay out of state fees. It's ridiculous at a time when people are running away from that area out of fear from CWD and also when hunter numbers are down in general the state soaks the out of state guys that just want to come home to hunt. How much harder are they gonna make it before only rich people and paid snipers get to do all the hunting. | | | |
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ontarioben -
4-Pointer
| | 10/17/2007 9:28 PM |
| | I kinda wish Ontario had a program like this earn a buck, in my area you can only take a doe if you apply for an antlerless tag or in some areas they offer extra tags for antlerless only of course they charge you another $37 for each tag and you have to have purchased your regular tag first. So for me I would be willing to pay a little extra to be able to take 2 deer instead of the one deer for one hunter rule, especially where I live our season is 3 months long and if you tag out early like I just did you end up pulling your hair out waiting for next year. | | | |
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Dobber -
Moderator
4-Pointer
| | 10/18/2007 5:53 PM |
| gets worse Ben when you bring along the apprentice hunter and he/she shoots your only tag. I always try to get an additional tag somewhere.
off topic a bit, at KM 114 on the 401 on the north side a huge 10 or 12 was spotted 200 yards from the highway | | | |
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Muskiefisher -
Button Buck
| | 10/19/2007 1:03 PM |
| | How are you suppose to control the herd if everyone just shoots bucks. EAB was put in place for a reason. | | | |
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sapper -
Button Buck
| | 11/08/2007 8:42 PM |
| | now i grew up hunting in ohio before i joined the army. but if i remember right you were only allowed to take 2 deer each year. your first tag purchased was for a buck or doe and then your second tag was for a doe only either one buck and one doe or 2 does. so if you killed a buck and a doe during the archery season your deer hunting for the year was over. now for the states that have the earn a buck program i think it is a good way to keep buck doe ratio in check for reasons stated above in other comments . but i dont see why anyone would need to harvest anymore than 2 deer for the entire season to me any number over 2 deer per year is just a waste. | | | |
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grimreaper -
Spike
Mooseyards of Shawano, WI
| | 11/08/2007 10:15 PM |
| | I actually like the EAB. I have been seeing more and bigger bucks and I feel this is partailly due to hunters having to pass on bucks because they don't have their sticker yet. I feel it is being used as a tool for herd control as the DNR says our deer herd is way too large. If it weren't for the EAB many hunters would never harvest a doe and I speculate that the herd size would continue to be too large and the buck to doe ratio would be way out of wack. I do not feel that you should be able to buy as many anterless tags as you want though. I think there is a point when enough is enough and you don't need any more deer meat. If I filled all of my bow and gun tags that would be 4 does and 2 bucks and there is no way I could eat all that meat in a year. The unfortunate thing about the EAB are the "hunters" that are picking up road kill to get their EAB stickers. Things may change in the future once we do our part and get the herd down to the size the DNR wants. Of course this is all just my opinion and I may be completely wrong. | |
Only the dead have seen the end of war. Plato | |
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ianhuntsny -
4-Pointer
Orange/Ulster County New York
| | 12/02/2007 11:29 AM |
| | 4 deer a day thats crazy | | | |
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gccheever -
Button Buck
West Central Wisconsin
| | 12/07/2007 1:00 PM |
| | I wasn't much for earn-a-buck when it first got started. This year in WI the EAB tag is good for the present year and if not filled good for the next year. I have no problem with that. What my gripe is the changing of the different reqirements for the many different zones. This comes from the same page for trout fishing in WI. Growing up I enjoyed trout fishing. Today I don't trout fish because of the too many regulations. It's okay to use live bait from here to here but on the other side of the bridge you can only use artificial. You will need to check out the official WI DNR web site to understand. I remember back when you couldn't shoot a doe in WI (party permit only) Thanks for listening. | |
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riversrun -
Button Buck
| | 01/05/2008 10:56 AM |
| OK CWD BLAH BLAH BLAH. This is my opinion,and only that. Have been hunting and fishing for 50 yrs in Wisconsin. Lost my son to a "brain prion" do to complications of aids related Hemophilia. This
"brain prion" is the same as cwd, and the only reason I mention this, is I've done research into"cwd"
in an effort to save his life. CWD has been around for over 100 yrs, Canada,Wyoming,Montana,and several other western states. Yes, this is real however blown way out of reality. The facts as I see them, is the economy in this country has been gravitating down at the speed of light. The first "sign"
of this was the DNR offering "extra tags" for gun deer season. This was an absolute disaster in northern wisconsin. To call it a slaughter would be kind. Although hunters are primarily the most ethical group concerning the environment, there are those who hunt just to kill. An example of this was at our cabin north of Tomahawk, where the deer are fed by groups through the winter, and these "EXTRA TAGS" culminated in HUNDREDS of deer, some with spots still visible, left after a "drive" through certain areas. these deer were left dead, mostly because they were pretty small, and not worth the bother to stop and harvest. Others were wounded and not tracked because it was open season, and anything "brown was down". why waste time tracking when there are lots more up ahead. I know this first hand from dragging or carrying(sometimes two with one hand) these deer out to a pile and burning them. This was done because of coyotes, who feed on these carion,spread disease, and multiply like rabbits. This is exactly what happened, the coyote population exploded, and due to the reintroduction of the timber wolf, you could no longer shoot coyotes during deer season. Cwd my butt. the reason all these tags and xtra seasons developed was because of extreme pressure from insurance companies, who have to pay cazillions of dollers in claims.also, this opened a new avenue of revenue for the state and dnr. just my opinion | | | |
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phantom19752 -
Button Buck
| | 01/06/2008 6:30 PM |
| | I also live in Southern Wisconsin in the cwd zone i dont understand what the big deal is with ppl hateing the earn a buck grant it i am kinda new to the state been here for 6 years but if it wasnt earn a buck wouldnt we have to pay extra for our buck tag's? I grew up in Ohio and hunted there when i was younger we didnt see many deer there here in Wisconsin i have seen more deer in one field in the same day than i saw in ohio for years i belive that we do need to shoot doe's and young deer as well i know not everyone will agree with me in this but why hunt just the bucks? And another thing that gets me lol i know alot of ppl do this but im not sure i could is deer drives thats just wanting to get shot isnt it? thats as bad as going to public hunting ground on opening day lol. | | | |
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