slawman - 
4-Pointer
 | | 05/02/2008 5:28 AM |
| Ok things have obviously slowed down, so in an effort to spark conversation what would you do.
your a conservation agent and after the deer season things have slowed down and while driving around you see an old beat-up pick-up along side of the road in a public hunting area. you stop to check it out and run the liscense plate, find out who it belongs too, and they have no warrant out or previous violations . So you wait a while for his return and out of the woods comes a man dragging a deer. you approach the man and ask for I. D. , and notice pictures of 4 young children of his in his wallet. it's freezing out and you notice he's wearing an old wore out pair of tennis shoes and not much warm clothing on and not the fancy camo you would expect from most of us. the man is out of work cause there isn't much work around the area, the man says he was just trying to get some food for his family......you know what your job is and what your suppose to do. but what does your innerself tell you to do. . | | | |
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Jeremiah Johnson -
Spike
| | 05/02/2008 7:44 AM |
| | Ok, forget you saw him and not do your duty or do your job? I would forget... | | | |
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MelSue -
Forum Administrator
Record Book
Metamora, Illinois
| | 05/02/2008 9:00 AM |
| | What is the expression??? Two wrongs don't make a right. Odd but what he is doing and my forgetting seem like two wrongs that do seem right. My inner self would also tell me to follow and see where he lived.... and sneak his family a nice sized care package. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Not at all saying I condone the action but I feel very sorry for anyone who needs food. | |
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gaeleninwoods -
Button Buck
central south carolina
| | 05/02/2008 11:51 AM |
| | i probably won't be too popular for my opinion but here goes. i would feel for the family but there have always been hard times for different people. the law is the law, if you start bending it you'll create a very sticky situation. that man may tell his friends what happened then they would want to hunt out of season. if i was the officer i would probably confiscate the deer, issue warning tickets (if possible), have the deer processed and take it to the family. i'd have to let him know it was a one time deal though. | | | |
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mcraddock -
6-Pointer
Possum Kingdom, SC
| | 05/02/2008 6:20 PM |
| | Actually, that is a pretty good response gaeleninwoods. I think that is an appropiate resolution that doesn't compromise your job and benefits the needy at the same time. If the gentleman in question had access to private land, I would even go a little further by issuing a depredation permit that would allow him to take a small number of deer out of season just for his personal use. | | | |
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tubby -
Record Book
Moundville,Alabama
| | 05/02/2008 7:53 PM |
| Posted By mcraddock on 05/02/2008 6:20 PM
Actually, that is a pretty good response gaeleninwoods. I think that is an appropiate resolution that doesn't compromise your job and benefits the needy at the same time. If the gentleman in question had access to private land, I would even go a little further by issuing a depredation permit that would allow him to take a small number of deer out of season just for his personal use.
I think I would have to agree with you both. | |
Tubby
The God of My Rock;He Is My Sheild;And The Horn Of My Salvation 2 Samuuel,Ch 22 | |
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slawman -
4-Pointer
| | 05/03/2008 2:43 AM |
| | AFter thinking about it, I WOUld have to let it go this time but make it clear how i was putting my neck on the line for him, and take his name and give it to the local state police which here in ILLINois , they will call you when a deer gets hit by a car and all you have to do is go and get it. with all the deer that gets hit here in ILLINOIS he would have more than he and his family could handle. | | | |
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AndyC -
4-Pointer
| | 05/03/2008 8:57 PM |
| | Good point...probably get all the deer meat you can handle from raod kills around here. I would let the guy go but try to get hunting people together to provide some meat for his family. | | | |
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The Bulldog -
Forum Moderator
4-Pointer
Missouri
| | 05/04/2008 5:11 AM |
| Here is my delima, one I would not want to risk loosing my job and being in the predicament that he is in. Two In my opinion, if you have guns, and ammunition then there are other ways to get food without poaching a deer.
Might go ahead and do what my duty requires me to do, then try to hook them up with the share the harvest Program. | | | |
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cb -
6-Pointer
| | 05/05/2008 9:20 AM |
| Yes times are slow here on BT
I'm glad somebody came up with a good topic
Tough call though!
Yes, I would issue the ticket. Then I would go and investigate to be sure the man is not lying to me. If in fact the problems are as he says, then I would go to the judge and put in a good word for him and ask the judge to be easy with him as to any fines or renumeration to the state.
Then I would do as others have said about getting help for the family, such as roadkills,watch for jobs that he would be qualified for,etc.
I would not jeopardize my living and put myself in this man's predicament. | | | |
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Dobber -
Moderator
4-Pointer
| | 05/05/2008 2:24 PM |
| how people cope with their "issues" is a tough one for sure. i would not put my job on the line for him but would be willing to cut breaks where i could and where i wouldn;t put myself or family at risk.
Definatly give whatever support you could give if warranted
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jkoehler -
Forum Moderator
Record Book
Kansas
| | 05/05/2008 4:18 PM |
| The sad thing is the way the economy is going there will be more and more of this. Yes laws are laws but nobody
wants there kids to go hungry. I would do all I could to help him | |
'To get something you never had, you have to do something you never did.' | |
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tubby -
Record Book
Moundville,Alabama
| | 05/05/2008 6:40 PM |
| Like Jacob said there are laws and the economy is bad(getting worse),but I like the rest of us here would not hesitate to kill a deer(any game animal) to feed our children.
I also understand that the warden or police officer has a job to do and would not fault him or her for doing it.Compassion is a wonderful human quality,I also would do all posssible to help him. | |
Tubby
The God of My Rock;He Is My Sheild;And The Horn Of My Salvation 2 Samuuel,Ch 22 | |
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Howard -
4-Pointer
| | 05/07/2008 12:40 PM |
| I actually made a mental decision to shoot a deer out of season after Hurricane Katrina by my brother's house.
No one knew how far and wide the destruction might be...power outages, food shortages, etc. I was supposed to be in the house with 17 other people! I made my final decision to hunt a deer while evacuating. It didn't come to that situation where we evacuated.... | | | |
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mc6528 -
4-Pointer
SW Arkansas
| | 05/07/2008 8:34 PM |
| I just pray to God that I'm never faced with this situation on either side of the fence! | |
"Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." Ralph Waldo Emerson | |
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The Bulldog -
Forum Moderator
4-Pointer
Missouri
| | 05/07/2008 10:54 PM |
| Here we Go, Run him in to the Jail, then he would get 3 hots and a cot, his wife and kids could get help from there church to eat, and theres more deer left in the field for the Legal Hunters. How about that? Anyone?
No I am not that big of a jerk. lol. | | | |
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Howard -
4-Pointer
| | 05/09/2008 5:04 PM |
| Posted By Howard on 05/07/2008 12:40 PM
I actually made a mental decision to shoot a deer out of season after Hurricane Katrina by my brother's house.
No one knew how far and wide the destruction might be...power outages, food shortages, etc. I was supposed to be in the house with 17 other people! I made my final decision to hunt a deer while evacuating. It didn't come to that situation where we evacuated....
Before anyone calls the wildlike folks I think I should clarify myself and say that I did NOT shoot a deer out of season, but I would have if we were desperate enough and it was a very last resort to feed 17+ people and all other food sources were exhausted. | | | |
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mc6528 -
4-Pointer
SW Arkansas
| | 05/09/2008 5:16 PM |
| | Howard, a man's got to do what a man's got to do! But, he must be willing to deal with the consequences no matter what side of the law he is on. | |
"Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail." Ralph Waldo Emerson | |
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tubby -
Record Book
Moundville,Alabama
| | 05/09/2008 6:33 PM |
| Walking on the right side of the law is not always easy,especially in circumstances that involve someone you love going hungry.
I am not advocating breaking the laws by any means but you are right when you say a mans got to do what mans got to do. | |
Tubby
The God of My Rock;He Is My Sheild;And The Horn Of My Salvation 2 Samuuel,Ch 22 | |
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slawman -
4-Pointer
| | 05/10/2008 2:31 AM |
| | when it comes down to it, when the chit hits the fan, we take care of our own. nuff said ! | | | |
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