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09 Jul 2008 08:10 PM  

I just got a puppy, my first one as an adult. My cousin got it for me from a friend of his and his brothers, since he knew I was looking for a dog for a pet and companion

Anyway I am wondering what kind of hunting are Golden Retriever good for???

 

I also wanted to know if the dog is a mix, if the Golden Retriever breeding is still strong in it. Because this puppy is half Golden Retriever & half Rottweiler.

The mother was the Golden Retriever.

 

If the pup is still able to be trained and used as you would a pure Golden Retriever, how do I go about training it for hunting as a Golden Retriever would be used???

 

Also when should training start??? I am kind of new to this puppy or dog thing, since I hadn’t had one since I was about 13 or 14 years old. And that last dog was a St. Bernard. And I had other dogs before that too. But it was a family thing. So I do not know anything about what to do to try and potty train or anything else as far as regular dog training, let alone hunting dog training. Anyway it is about 6 or 7 weeks old. I was told she was born on May 23rd. so whatever that would be…

 

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!!!

 

Below is a couple pictures of my new pup!!!

 

 







She really seem loyal or clingy. As I am typing this, she is sleeping on my feet as I have them crossed under my computer desk and has her head up near my ankles. But I know that is mostly because she is still a young pup and was use to staying close to her mom!!!

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09 Jul 2008 08:18 PM  
Oh, and if I put this in the wrong spot, Please move it to the right area!!!

Thanks!!!

Oh, and what can any one tell me about worms??? I know she has them, I seen about 30 to 40 of them in a pile she did, and some hang from her still. I went to the store and got some worm rid stuff. But what I want to know is can this cause her not to feel like eating??? I got her last night about 8:30 and she did not eat at all yesterday, she drank some water once, about an hour or two before going to bed, but she did not eat any of the food in the bowl nest to the water, she just smelled it and then seen the water and took a couple laps of that and then turned and walked away.

Today the ate a couple pieces of the food, and drank some water. So I when I was eating my lunch, she was laying at my feet and when she smelled that as I tore off a piece of meat from a chicken breast, she sat up and was sniffing the air. So I gave her some chick fat from a thigh I had and then when she ate that I gave her a couple of pieces of the chicken meat. And don't worry, I did not give her any of the bones. I just gave her fat and meat. Anyway she ate about 3 or 4 small pieces of the chicken and then wasn't even interested in that any more either.

So anyway, is this worm thing possibly causing her lack of eating??? Oh, and the dog food I tried feeding her before was puppy chow, so it is moist and soft for her. And if so how long will it take this stuff I gave her to to work, and get her eating right???


Thanks again for any help with this???
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11 Jul 2008 03:28 AM  
First and formost.....what did you name her? If you don't have a name them I would suggest Midnight.

Anyways...you probably need to take her to the vet and get some shots, wormed ect. You can probably call around and find a discount one for a $30 or so bucks. If you dont' get the shots she could get parvo or some other puppy virus.

On the hunting issue unless you have a specific hunting task that you want to accomplish then I would suggest that you just keep her as a great pet and love her. She looks laby more than golden retriver but who knows. If she is lab you could train her on waterfowl but who wants to do that....it is time conusuming and duck hunters are a strange lot. Stick to deer...it would be cool if you couldvtrain her to pick up sheds that woudl be pretty cool for you since you don't get around so well.

One more thing. It would be a good idea to kennel train her. Go get yourself a x-large size kennel (either on Pet smart or go on craiglist maybe for a cheaper used one) she looks like she will be a big dog. Make her sleep in that thing and always say "box-up", "nighty-night" or some other repetative command. She will cry for a while but eventually she will go straigth to that box when you give her the command and won't ever go the the bathroom in the box (unless you accidently leave your in there for a ridicoulas amount of time)

Good luck with your new puppy...she is beuitiful.
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11 Jul 2008 05:24 AM  
Yea, she has a name, after thinking about it for about 2 or 3 hours after I got her, I thought I would name her Duchess. I always ask the dog I am going to be naming and I say a few names and when they reply to one (usually licking my face it the reply!!!) I will repeat it and if they reply again then I will say say OK, I will name you, what ever. Well that is what I use to do as a kid anyway, and one time when I was asked by a wife of a navy buddy of mine when I was still in the Navy. So I did this and this time I said one name before I tried Duchess, and she just looked at me, as if saying "are you crazy!!!" and then when I said duchess she started jumping around all happy and what not, and started licking my face.

Anyway, if your wondering how or why I thought I duchess, that is a name of a St. Bernard dog I had as a kid, actually we had two St. Bernard's at the same time, they were brother and sister, but duchess was given aways because 2 St. Bernard's were more than my parents could handle, and duchess got into a lot of trouble. she needed more space than what her brother seemed to need, so she was sent to a guy who lived on a farm in Omaha, Nebraska. Anyway, her name was Duchess, and her brothers name was Duke.

Yea, I bought some worm stuff at the store, it seems to have worked. She doesn't have worms in her stool any more. And she is definitely eating more now and seems to be a lot more energetic than she was for the first 2 days.

Well on the hunting question, I was only asking because as I said she is suppose to be half Golden Retriever I have seen pictures of Golden Retriever's with birds in their mouths. But could not tell if they were duck or pheasant's or what. So I was wondering what it was that Golden Retriever's are suppose to be good for, as far as hunting that is. I know they all make great pets. But I was just wondering!!!

I was also wondering since she is half Rottweiler if she would still have the breeding that a Golden Retriever would have, and if she could be trained still with the half Rottweiler that is in her...

I mean yea, I want to continue deer hunting, but if I can get the chance to go Pheasant or quail hunting or some other bird like that, I would like to go and if I can have my own dog to retrieve for me, then that would help too, because right now I don't know anyone who hunts any of these birds or who has a dog to do it with...

Yea, I know about the not going to the bathroom in the area where they sleep. I don't have the money for a kennel right now, so I am using the next best thing, I have a big cardboard box that I have her bed in, and I have the lids taped together to make the walls of the box to high for her to jump out of. So I am using that box right now, either until she is potty trained or until she starts to tear thru it, or until I get the money to get a kennel...

Yea, from what I looked up on the internet, she will be a medium/large sized dog, not to much bigger than a Golden Retriever. But she could be as big as a Rottweiler. But going by what I read is only a little taller than a golden retriever, and about 20 to 30 more than a Golden Retriever.

Like I said I was hoping maybe someone else here might have a dog like mine that is half Golden Retriever & half Rottweiler... I mean not the same mix breeds but something else, like maybe half Golden Retriever & half German Sheppard or something else like that. To let me know if the mix breed dogs like mine can still be trained to do what one or both of the breeds are for???

Thank you!!! I think she is BEAUTIFUL too!!! Oh, and yea, I am going to get her shots as soon as I get the money for them. Which looks like it won't be until the first, which is when I get my veteran's disability check.
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12 Jul 2008 12:57 AM  
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16 Jul 2008 05:55 PM  
Hey Andy,all of us duck hunters aren't a strange lot.
Ray,the pup looks like a smart one and being the mom is a golden,the pup may turn out to be a fine retreiver.
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16 Jul 2008 10:11 PM  
Thanks everyone!!! And yes, Tubby, she does seem like a smart one, I swear sometimes she understands what I say. The only problem I seem to have with her now is getting her potty trained, and getting her to stop bitting. She'll bit/chew anything she can get hold of. My phone book, my & my dad's shoes, my hand, arm and even my nose.

On the Nose thing I had her up close and was holding her in my arm and talking to her, and she started licking my nose and then bit my nose. She has never drawn blood on me, but she did on my dad once. Her teeth are so sharp that he didn't know she drew blood until he went to the frig a few minutes after he was playing with her, to get something and blood was on the door after opening up the door.

Other than that, she is a great dog. I just wish I knew more about training dogs.
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17 Jul 2008 08:30 AM  
I am sure some dog sites you may pull up on a Google search may help you.
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17 Jul 2008 11:24 AM  
if you spend alot of time with him you can have him potty trained in no time, kkep an eye on him when he wakes up take him out imeadeatly, and reward him and praise him when he goes potty , take him out very frequently, specially after vigorous playtime, were dealing with a puppy now, within a week we had him going to the back door and barking to go out and potty......but puppies forget easy and have accidents so be persistent, don't be afraid of discipline.
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17 Jul 2008 11:26 AM  
dealing with labs for along time, keep plenty of things around that he is allowed to chew on....toys ....etc. a rolled up paper is a good discipline tool, the noise alone will make him pay attention.
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28 Jul 2008 09:07 PM  
Posted By slawman on 07/17/2008 5:26 AM
dealing with labs for along time, keep plenty of things around that he is allowed to chew on....toys ....etc. a rolled up paper is a good discipline tool, the noise alone will make him pay attention.


SLAWMAN IS WRIGHT.......GIVE HER HER TOYS AND LET HER KNOW YOUR THING AND HERS ARE NOT THE SAME.....WHEN I GOT MY LAB (MISS MOLLY) SHE HAD A TOY BOX AND SHE WOULD GO GET HER TOYS OUT TO PLAY/CHEW  JUST WISH SHE WOULD HAVE PUT THEM UP THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A TRICK.....BUT ALSO GET HER A SMALL KENNEL TO SLEEP IN OR STAY IN WHILE YOUR NOT HOME AND AS SOON AS YOU GET HOME TAKE HER OUT TO DO HER THING......AND PRAISE HER WHEN SHE DOES AND POP HER NOSE WITH THAT NEWS PAPER WHEN SHE DOES BAD..... 
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02 Aug 2008 05:17 PM  
Posted By r_rayjr on 07/09/2008 2:18 PM
Oh, and if I put this in the wrong spot, Please move it to the right area!!!

Thanks!!!

Oh, and what can any one tell me about worms??? I know she has them, I seen about 30 to 40 of them in a pile she did, and some hang from her still. I went to the store and got some worm rid stuff. But what I want to know is can this cause her not to feel like eating??? I got her last night about 8:30 and she did not eat at all yesterday, she drank some water once, about an hour or two before going to bed, but she did not eat any of the food in the bowl nest to the water, she just smelled it and then seen the water and took a couple laps of that and then turned and walked away.

Today the ate a couple pieces of the food, and drank some water. So I when I was eating my lunch, she was laying at my feet and when she smelled that as I tore off a piece of meat from a chicken breast, she sat up and was sniffing the air. So I gave her some chick fat from a thigh I had and then when she ate that I gave her a couple of pieces of the chicken meat. And don't worry, I did not give her any of the bones. I just gave her fat and meat. Anyway she ate about 3 or 4 small pieces of the chicken and then wasn't even interested in that any more either.

So anyway, is this worm thing possibly causing her lack of eating??? Oh, and the dog food I tried feeding her before was puppy chow, so it is moist and soft for her. And if so how long will it take this stuff I gave her to to work, and get her eating right???


Thanks again for any help with this???

I would suggest getting her to a vet ASAP!
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02 Aug 2008 07:08 PM  
Posted By Jawja on 08/02/2008 11:17 AM

I would suggest getting her to a vet ASAP!


She doesn't have the worms any more. In fact I have given her, her second dose of the worm medicine last wednesday. (July 23) I mean I do need to get her to the vet, but it doesn't have to be ASAP, she just needs to get her puppy shots is all...
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05 Aug 2008 07:20 PM  
I've had Labs and trained them, had a wonderful German Shepherd, and lost him a couple of years back. My new pup is one of the two young men in the icon photo attached to this note. I can't tell which he is, because all three of the boys so closely resembled each other.
Given how young your pup is, I would kennel train him first before you do anything else. Refrain from any other kinds of training except play training till he gets this down. (I'll explain that in a minute.) Keep him in the kennel for between two and four hours. Holding him by his collar, open the door, and in a firm but non-threatning way, give him the command "in", and guide him in. Do the reverse when you remove him. Open the door, take him by his collar and command him "out". Don't let go of his collar, but walk him quickly to the back door and give him the command "out", then go out and play with him for about fifteen to thrity minutes, till he does his business and when he does, give him a ton of praise.

Play training is the method of teaching him what he can and cannot do in a game setting. If he picks up your socks, simply walk over, remove them from him tell him "NO!", and give him one of his toys. At this point in his life you are going to have to watch him every single moment he is out of the kennel. He cannot be allowed to go behind furniture or hide from you. As with any child, once he figures that your going to tell him NO when he piddles on the floor and escort him out the back door, he'll start hiding from you to do it. In cases like this, have a bottle of water and vinegar mixed. When he pees, say nothing just catch him, straddle him and put his nose in it, tell him firmly "NO!", then spray the pee with the vinegar soak it up with a paper towel and put it on his nose again, with another "NO". Then escort him out the door. This does two things. He learns that hes wrong for peeing in your house, and you have covered his scent with yours, in essence re-marking your territory. Real training can begin when he is about four months old or so, but no more than five minutes at a time and no more than every other day to start. Always end on a good note!!

More than anything else, remember that he thinks like a dog, and has a pack mentality. Putting his mouth on you or anyone is a sign of leadership and dominance. He cannot be allowed to do that!! He will accept only one leader, but he needs to be the loved low man on the totem pole in your family.

I hope this helps some....:)
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05 Aug 2008 07:37 PM  
Oh, I forgot a couple of things. As I mentioned before, he thinks like a dog. He doesn't understand english, but he will learn to associate sounds with attitude and such. So keep any commands you give the same, each and every time. Every time in and out of any door is an opportunity to "in and out' him. "NO" should be the only reprimand you ever need to give him. There are a couple of things you need to think about when your training. Remember that his skin is like your elbow. It is made for combat and is loose on his body so that another animals teeth slash only skin and slide off muscle, and it allows him to turn in his skin to face his opponent. That being said, hitting the animal will only make him shy from you every time you have something similar in your hands, and it doesn't hurt him anyway. Another training no, no is: NEVER chase the dog! Once he ever figures out that he can out run you, if he ever senses he is in trouble, you'll never catch him again.

If he is in trouble, no matter what it is, calm yourself and walk to him saying nothing till he is caught, and then again, NO is the only reprimand. They may not understand english, but they are experts at reading body language, scent, and more that tells him how you feel.

Oh, and from the previous note....only reprimand him if you actually 'catch' him doing something. Getting all huffy at finding your rug chewed, hours after the deed, will mean nothing to him and he won't understand why your angry.
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