I have an API "grand slam "shooting star" climber. it has all the bells and whistles padded armrests, shooting rail,foot rail,high back seat (fully adjustable). I have covered everything that makes noise with camo rubber or tape and rubber dipped the chain.this is a sit and climb or a hand climber . Easy to pack and climb with,only weighs 15 lbs.right at $300.00 invested. shoot me some offers of trade or $$$$